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Marcia Kupfer's avatar

The Kristof piece was so disturbing I could not work on the essay I’m now developing on antizionism in the Jewish community. This is the work of demoralization, and it’s effective. I’m very curious to see the follow-through in the NYT. Further investigative reporting? Additional opinion pieces by other columnists? A side question: did Kristof ever address the allegations of rape on Oct 7 in a separate column, or only in the context of this one?

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You're right about the sourcing being important. And you're right that the documented case is, in some ways, more damning.

Someone told me Samoudi had stomach cancer, but I can find 0 evidence of it.

Gvir's own words are damning and I can't just ignore what he said.

After October 7, I understand the desire to make someone pay. To want the people associated with that horror to feel the worst pain anyone can imagine. The desire for vengeance is human and ugly.

i feel it myself and I'm American and I wasn't there and I don't personally know anyone who was. I can only imagine what it looks like inside people who were.

But understanding that vengeance is a human trait doesn't make any of this ok. And the job of a government, military, prison system is to have 0 tolerance for any of it.

There is plenty of evidence that Israel is failing to uphold lines that should not be crossed in Settler violence, in a broken statue, and in accusations of sexual assault, starvation, and being held without charge.

This isn't just optics, (but yeah, if they have nothing else, they should at least recognize that).

This is about whether you allow yourself to become that very thing you are fighting against.

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