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AM's avatar

These posts are not meant as a genocide rebuttal. They are meant to challenge a visual narrative that is the sole defining factor in this misinformation and propaganda campaign. The antizionists are not interested in genocide rebuttal and facts and definitions. They have reframed, redefined words and weaponized images long before israeli troops entered gaza. We are losing the pr war because we are trying to argue about international law and they are arguing about images of starving children. We are losing the pr war because we have been asleep at the wheel for decades while they have curated an industry that is entirely manufactured by emotionally driven images and language. It is the fake image of a starving child on the cover of the ny times that the world remembers, sadly, not Natasha Hausdorff's eloquent rebuttal at oxford against genocide. We are losing the pr war bc antisemitism and antizioniam isn't rational and you can't argue facts and statistics with irrational hatred. That being said, we absolutely need those legal rebuttals but we also need those images. we are late to the game. We have lost educational institutions, we have lost progressive spaces (media, arts) and at this point, we are all shooting in the dark trying whatever we can. Will any of it work? Fuqq if I know. And I guarantee our best and brightest don't know either, or they would have done it already.

Diana Murray's avatar

"A marathon doesn’t disprove genocide. A cafe doesn’t disprove genocide. A picnic doesn’t disprove genocide. "

Actually, it does.

Susan Levy's avatar

Of course these photos have no bearing on the issue of whether a genocide occurred. However, they are a welcome break from the non-stop images of emaciated children, crumbled buildings and dead bodies. If only the antizionist Western media would print photos like these occasionally. But that would be inconsistent with their non-stop narrative that Israel/Jews are despicable and evil and everything negative you have ever heard about them is true.

Barry Mellinger's avatar

You are right, and the birthday cake with bullet holes says everything.

Of course, civilian casualties are a tragedy. But tragedy is not genocide. Israel didn't go into Gaza by choice,it went in because 1,200 people were massacred in a single morning. What followed was a war, not an extermination campaign.

But we lost this argument long before Yakoby posted a picnic. Not because we argued badly, but because we've spent decades arguing with people who've already decided, while ignoring the vast majority who simply don't know us at all. Three in four non-Jewish Americans know practically nothing about Jewish life, history or culture. And instead of filling that vacuum with who we actually are, our values, our traditions, our extraordinary contribution to civilisation, we keep relitigating the war in front of people who have no interest in facts.

So yeh we need real arguments but first we need people to care.

Alan's avatar

People aren't influenced by data and reason, either. They're influenced by social cues as to what is acceptable to think and say.

Hugo B's avatar

seeing the V-sign, thinking about 'victimization as victory'- strategy.

Are there any candles of peace ?

And yes, bullet holes are usual in a (former) war zone.

Arrr Bee's avatar

How about Gazawood and Pallywood posts? Or pointing out that so many images and videos used by the Free Palestine cult come from other conflicts such as Yemen and Syria, ironically committed by Islamists? Is it okay for us to keep posting proof that the Free Palestine cult lie about everything? You don’t mind if we point out that much of the noise about the conflict isn’t real, or is that “doing it wrong”?

Eli Kowaz's avatar

We can definitely call out their lies. The piece addresses this. I'm not arguing against exposing staged content. I'm arguing that a birthday party or a marathon isn't a genocide rebuttal.

Brammymiami's avatar

It's subtle, but in all of those photos of marathons, giant weddings, markets, cafes named after the Nova massacre, I never see ONE PERSON who looks like they were malnourished. Mostly we see overweight men and women, posing themselves and children with weapons. Not one legitimate photograph shows evidence of genocide nor malnutrition, let alone starvation. Bullet holes in the walls are just as likely to have been caused by the homeowners who shoot their weapons in celebration or are evidence of war. These pictures DO provide evidence of their normal lives and look NOTHING like any genocide photos from Rwanda or the Holocaust. That's the reason for them. However, most people know this and actually do not care. They hate Israel because they hate Jews, not because they believe Israel has conducted the Gazan War in any uniquely evil way (when actually it's done quite the opposite..) They know that actual atrocities are being committed on a daily basis in Iran, Africa, Ukraine. They don't care because "no Jews, no news." They know that there was NO attempted genocide nor genocide committed in Gaza but to this minute, they claim the genocide is "on going!" We must stop trying to be logical about hate. It's never been susceptible to logic and never will be.

Linda Dionne's avatar

And they have won the propaganda war by posting pictures. So we should do the same. Some of these idiots will not read the arguments, but they do look at pictures and read captions. Such as I don't remember Anne Frank going surfing, running a marathon, going on an elaborate food fest picnic, or birthday party, which I read and then used myself.